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Jared

I can't believe it. We went to all this trouble to launch a full-scale war on Saddam Hussein and his regime and, why, we could have just left the whole thing to the Germans.

I can't believe we were so dumb.

Coralfish · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 8:31 pm Post subject:

The above is laced with sarcasm I am sure..... Wink

It is really rather sad that some feel that filing a lawsuit against Saddam will really be effecive.I imagine American's are to think that the moment we would turn this over to the French and Germans world peace and prosperity would ensue(note the sarcasm) Indeed. If it all was really as simple as a lawsuit, we would have figured it out long ago. But with a tyrant like Saddam there is no alternative-and he has given us no opportunity for one. As for how we could spend the money?
More rubber bullets for the police in New York? Mabe, but I would prefer funding to be used for sending those who feel that President Bush is more inhuman than Saddam (because he allows snowmobiling in Yellowstone) on a one-way ticket to Timbuktu....or some such place.

skygazing · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 8:36 pm Post subject:

A) You don't pay taxes
B) While, yes, I do think we should try to change things for the better when we can...I don't think we need to worry about things that are totally out of our control at the moment......

:roll:

Coralfish · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 8:58 pm Post subject:

C) I could be paying taxes as soon as this summer....(assuming I get a
job) and eve nthough it is not a large amount, I would like to know that it is being spent in a worthwhile fashion.

D) While I see your point in not needing to worry unnecessarily, yes it is necessary to stay informed on what is happening. After all it is pretty important! This is probably rather offtopic, but I will be able to vote next year, and through electing the officials that I believe are the best, yes I will have some part(however small) in choosing which candidate is elected. That is probably nowhere near to what you meant but I decided to mention it nonetheless.

E) The above is just my opinion for all it is worth... Wink

smurfs · Guest

listen we may let the Germans take over the war but until then we need to support our troops over there in Iraq. and besides Hussain and his sons my be dead Very Happy

P.S. to Jared, yes im going to scream at you : why are you saying that we are so dumb,Hussain was thretining to nuk us and we needed to defend our selves and so that is what were doing, and the Iraqis needed to be saved from the hands of Hussain and his group. and im thankful that Mr.Bush is incharge right now.Why do you know some one else that could do better?

Coralfish · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 9:27 pm Post subject:

I think he was being sarcastic. Of course the Germans could not do better....if they think that the solution to Hussein is in court.

Jared · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:15 pm Post subject:

Yes, I was definitely being sarcastic.

My point was that it's absolutely absurd to seek extradiction of Hussein. He's very unlikely to volunteer to stand trial for murder.

I prefer extraction ... or elimination. It will work a lot better than extradiction.

Anyway, Madison, just to clear things up: the Germans do not want to take the war effort over from us; actually, they strongly oppose this war, mainly because Gerhardt Schroder, the country's socialist leader, saw opposition as a shrewd political calculation.

I strongly support the war effort and our military, as I have said many, many times. If anything, we took 12 years too many to start this war.

And I am hopeful that Saddam, Uday, Quesay and the intel officers are truly dead. JDAMS and bunker-busters are powerful weapons; that area was reduced not to rubble but to dust. Is Saddam dead? The British think not, while American sources are more optimistic. With reports of U.S. troops listening in on a sattelite phone conversation from in the building through the time the target was engaged, it's obvious that we destroyed much of their intelligence operations.

With three humint (human intelligence) sources telling the United States military that Saddam was in the building (speculation and rumor fueled by a few comments given by U.S. officials have it that these sources were two special unit member responding to and investigating data provided by the other humint source, an unnamed high-ranking Iraqi official) and with the building being in close proximity to the street in which the most recent videotape was proportedly filmed, I feel that it is almost certain that Saddam was in the building.

The questions: Did he sneak out before the bombs hit? Did he move to an underground bunker or make his way out of the place before it was demolished? Sources say that no one was seen exiting the building, so that really only leaves bunkers. Since many bunkers are presumed to be interconnected, if he made his way to one, his safety may have been assured. But the target was prosecuted with haste.

It is definitely far too early to say this with any real confidence, but I'm hopeful that Saddam is dead.

On a side note, wouldn't it be hilarious if the Iraqi Information Minister was the one who tipped off U.S. forces? There's been some wildly speculative rumors flying around to that effect. If he is, he may well be in U.S. protective custody right now. If he isn't, anyone left in the regime may falsely suspect him and have him killed. Maybe this is harsh, but I think we win either way. Either he helped us and is presumably safe or he didn't and may be eliminated for us. You know, save us the cost of a JDAM.

So, Madison, don't scream at me. I am absolutely in support of this war. Your claim that Saddam threatened to "nuke us," though, is incorrect. He possessed chemical and biological weapons in violation of eighteen U.N. resolutions he was bound to obey by the terms of the ceasefire of the Gulf War.

He also committed unspeakable atrocities, financed terror and posed a very real threat to our nation. And yes, he was probably working on the development of nuclear weapons. However, it is inaccurate to say that he had and threatened to use nuclear weaponry.

You ask if I know someone better than Bush to lead this country right now. Well, once again, I must say that you obviously missed what I was saying in my first post. I was being very sarcastic in my comments. Bush is a brilliant wartime leader who has my support and respect as both president and commander-in-chief.

And he has the best foreign policy staff ever assembled. The team of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rice, Perle, Franks and yes, even Powell, cannot be eclipsed by any this country has ever seen before or is likely to see again any time soon.

I hope that clears up any confusion about my stance on this issue! Smile

smurfs · Guest

Hussain better be dead Twisted Evil

Coralfish · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 10:11 am Post subject:

So has everyone heard today about Baghdad?

The citizens are attempting to pull down the giant statue of Saddam, and Iraqis are rejoicing in the streets more or less, now that Baghdad has been liberated. What would Michael Moore say now?

Anyways today is a great day to be an American! Smile

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83655,00.html

Jared · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:36 am Post subject:

Our men are handing out small U.S. flags, which Iraqis are proudly flying on their cars as they drive freely around the city, waving to personnel on Bradley Fighting Vehicles. The biggest debate today was whether or not to cover up the probably soon-to-be-demolished statue of Saddam with an American or Iraqi flag. The Americans, not wanting to look imperialistic, took off the American flag they originally draped over it and decided that it should be covered with an Iraqi flag. The Iraqis, on the other hand, want the forward troops to put back an American flag over it.

If the biggest controversy is that the Iraqis want our flags all over Baghdad, I'd say that the naysayers telling us that all Iraqis hate us were probably wrong! Smile