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GusDeHaan
The TH. Inspector and etc.
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| *daniel wrote: | | dawningoftime wrote: | | I think Canada accepts it's Englishness more then Americans ever have. |
Except in Quebec, where they force Frenchness down everyone's throats with draconian language laws. |
It isn't forced, It is a choice. |
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*daniel
I like pudding.
Joined: 22 Nov 2002
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Location: Toronto.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| GusDeHaan wrote: | | *daniel wrote: | | dawningoftime wrote: | | I think Canada accepts it's Englishness more then Americans ever have. |
Except in Quebec, where they force Frenchness down everyone's throats with draconian language laws. |
It isn't forced, It is a choice. |
As soon as you have to have language laws, you're forcing things. |
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Melissa
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Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| #1Listener wrote: | If I go to there country it is another story.
They treat us Americans as if we are arrogant and more or less tell us to go back to the states and stay there. |
Uhm... I come from one of those more "further in" areas, and actually a large part of the economy is supported by American tourism. You're not likely to find people who hold the attitude "go back to where you came from." I have to say though, that working in the tourism industry, the most ignorant, arrogant, and pushy people tended to be American. So that opinion isn't entirely unfounded. Canadians have their faults, there is a lack of position in many areas, this is a problem a lot of times. We can also be too laid back in regard to life.
| #1Listener wrote: | | I see Canada as a Socialistic country. You can not say any things in the pupit against gays. |
*is not entirely sure what "Socialistic" and "gay 'rights'" have to do with each other*
Anyway, I suppose there are aspects that are socialistic... like the health care is somewhat, although, I grew up within it, and it's always worked for those I know.
As for not saying anything in the pulpit against homosexuals, my father has preached many a sermon blatantly against them, to those who are practicing homosexuals. There haven't been any problems that have arisen at all. So, ministers definitely can say things against them in the pulpit in Canada. |
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dawningoftime
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well we are not far from each other. Your the second person that lives near me. Someone else from a nother forum.
Do you live in Sarnia or in more?
I know of a couple of people that live in Sarnia. |
Actually I live in Holland which is on the other side of Michigan. When my family goes to Canada to visit my grandparents we will go through Port Huron, though. |
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GusDeHaan
The TH. Inspector and etc.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| *daniel wrote: | | GusDeHaan wrote: | | *daniel wrote: | | dawningoftime wrote: | | I think Canada accepts it's Englishness more then Americans ever have. |
Except in Quebec, where they force Frenchness down everyone's throats with draconian language laws. |
It isn't forced, It is a choice. |
As soon as you have to have language laws, you're forcing things. |
Hardly. |
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Joey_Kid
Against Bennett General
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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Location: Cruising at top speeds in my Porsche!!!
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I would rather live in Canada than US any day. Partially because there money is worth more! lol  |
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When we visited Bruce Peninsula we had a many Canadian people who were nice to us until they asked where we were from. Then they cut the conversation and walked away!
I call that rude.
But most of my experiences with the Canadian people are good.
If you don't know what Socialism has to do with my example of speaking in the pulpit about guys then I don't know what to tell you.
It is one of your freedoms. Speech. And I am 99.9% sure that it is a law that Canadians can not say anything against guy life being bad. Your father is preaching on God's time.
"Canada's Parliament Prohibits Preaching Against Homosexuality - A "Canadian Radio and Televison Commission Statute" revealed in a resolution passed by Canada's parliament prohibits the use of radio or television to preach against sexual practices as "sin". According to columnist Eric Barger (1995), the words "sexual orientation" revealed clearly the meaning of this ruling. "Homosexuality is thus off limits and so are the Scriptures which recognize it as sin in the sight of God," Barger reported. Many scoff at Baptist historians who report that many were martyred at the hands of Rome's rule and religion during the dark ages. Our entire culture is sexual oriented to live in fornication between opposite genders and even advocating same sex marriages. Churches could well lose their tax exempt status unless they fall in line. NAFTA has spanned the borders of free trade in North America. The U.S.A. is nearer to the acceptance of such as Canada's action than many believe. The majority of our congress and senate members have ruled that lying under oath, adultery, perjury, and other oval office corruption and crime are acceptable. Someone said: "What one generation permits, the next generation practices, and the next generation will count it as doctrine." - WWM."
And for the health care situation....in Germany they started the same heathcare. Ask them if they like it now! I know of a German lady friend who's sister in law has it and she says it's the worst thing to hit the health care system. |
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Catspaw
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Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Joey_Kid wrote: | | I would rather live in Canada than US any day. Partially because there money is worth more! lol |
Your American money is worth more in Canada, but the Canadian dollar is worth less than the American dollar. Therefore, living in Canada would only be advantageous for you financially if you were spending American money. If a Canadian visits the States, we pay more for stuff, after the exchange rate is factored in. |
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Melissa
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From the Canadian Charter of Rights (or Bill of Rights):
| Quote: | Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
1. freedom of conscience and religion;
2. freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
3. freedom of peaceful assembly; and
4. freedom of association. |
further down the page:
| Quote: | | Even though these freedoms are very important, governments can sometimes limit them. For example, laws against pornography and hate propaganda are reasonable limits on freedom of expression because they prevent harm to individuals and groups. |
Basically, so long as there are no hate messages or harrassments contained in a sermon or other speech, and so long as the gathering remains peaceful and doesn't start a riot... then there should be no problem.
So, why would this make Canada socialistic? |
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Jonathan
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Joined: 21 Oct 2004
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Location: Minnesota and/or North Dakota
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| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Melissa wrote: | | Basically, so long as there are no hate messages or harrassments contained in a sermon or other speech, and so long as the gathering remains peaceful and doesn't start a riot... then there should be no problem. |
The problem here is that many people consider even calling homosexuality wrong/a sin is hate speech. I believe there have been debates in Canada as to what Christians can quote from the Bible relating to this, if they can do so at all.
-Jonathan |
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