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Eugene Kendall™ The Official Town Hall Nutcase

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 3713 Location: Grandma Land!
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| the topic location is kind of a toss up its a preyer request but its up for political and ive heard it said that all people are entitled to three basic rights wherever they are "which is life,liberty,and the pursuit of hapiness |
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dawningoftime Child's Portion Diet Mini Cheeseburger

Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 99
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| But it's not that easy. Because there was no living will/no notorized statement the debate is centered around whether or not Terry wanted to live like this. When you get to the heart of the matter this is the main issue. Personally if I was in a vegitative state and there was no hope of me recovering...I wouldn't want to live like that. |
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Disco Dan Scholarly Artist

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 3723 Location: In the land of Deep but not Profound...
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| The majority of this thread is "debate" type. |
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Londoner Somewhat Aging Member

Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Posts: 430 Location: London, England, UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| dawningoftime wrote: | | But it's not that easy. Because there was no living will/no notorized statement the debate is centered around whether or not Terry wanted to live like this. When you get to the heart of the matter this is the main issue. Personally if I was in a vegitative state and there was no hope of me recovering...I wouldn't want to live like that. |
God is the only one who has the right to take a persons life, whether you wish to live or not. God's plans are far bigger than we can understand. It may seem pointless to us, but God is in control. |
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Jonathan Dungeon Master

Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 2254 Location: Minnesota and/or North Dakota
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| Londoner wrote: | | dawningoftime wrote: | | But it's not that easy. Because there was no living will/no notorized statement the debate is centered around whether or not Terry wanted to live like this. When you get to the heart of the matter this is the main issue. Personally if I was in a vegitative state and there was no hope of me recovering...I wouldn't want to live like that. |
God is the only one who has the right to take a persons life, whether you wish to live or not. God's plans are far bigger than we can understand. It may seem pointless to us, but God is in control. |
In addition to what you two said there is no proof that Terry didn't want to be kept alive like that.
Speaking of which, CNN has succedded in angering me again by interviewing Michael Schiavo and his lawyer. I'll refrain from typing what I think of those two.
-Jonathan |
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StupendousMan Junior Member

Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 105
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| Seems that the judge again denied the feeding tube. This is sad, if they're so intent on killing her have the judge go in and leathly inject her himself, don't let her starve to death. |
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Londoner Somewhat Aging Member

Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Posts: 430 Location: London, England, UK
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| StupendousMan wrote: | | Seems that the judge again denied the feeding tube. This is sad, if they're so intent on killing her have the judge go in and leathly inject her himself, don't let her starve to death. |
Either way would be murder |
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StupendousMan Junior Member

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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course, she shouldn't be killed at all but if the "law" says she has to die do it in a more humane way, though I'll continue to pray that that dosen't happen. |
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Tianlet New Citizen

Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 50 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I was told that they are required to tell the person that they are going to remove the feeding tube, and that when they told Terry that that was what they were going to do, she cried. That doesn't sound like a vegetative state to me at all. I also heard that she can smile and even chuckle. Quite frankly, I don't know what to think about the morality of letting her die, but I don't think that the courts should have anything to say about it. At this point it's almost as if they have taken over. If Michael Shiavo decides to stop arguing will they let it drop? Or will they continue to insist that she die?
I also don't think she should have to starve to death of all things. The media is appealing to people: "You wouldn't want to be kept alive artificially, would you?" But they're making it sound like life support and that's not what it is at all. If you remove someone's breathing support, they will die within a few minutes, but this could take as much as two weeks! That's completely inhumane.
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GusDeHaan The TH. Inspector and etc.

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 763 Location: Im so bright You need sunglasses.
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Uh, "I heard" etc. Please, for the sake of promoting correct discussion based on facts, substanciate your claims with a third party source. Only in the best intrests of this discussion. |
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