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| Do You Practice/Appreciate Chivalry? |
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Catspaw
AIO Fan Fiction Writer
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Location: Canada
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I am a girl, and I appreciate it if a guy opens a door for me or does something nice, but I don't expect it. I'm quite capable of opening a door myself, and I think that it is a heavy burden to lay on someone if you demand that they should always open doors and pull out your chair and stuff like that. Coomon courtesy is expected, but going above and beyond normal niceness is not necessarily, though it is appreciated, unless it is done in a showy or excessive manner. If a guy refuses to let a girl open the door for him, then it's gone too far, in my opinion. I do like it when my dad drops me off at the door when it's raining and we're at a restuarant or something, but it's not because he thinks that I'll melt if I get wet. It's done out of thoughtfulness, not out of a low opinion of women and their abilities. |
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Mandy Straussberg
Three-year veteran
Joined: 07 Dec 2002
Posts: 616
Location: Out West
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| rosie wrote: | | Mandy, were you wearing really nice shoes and stuff? I can't imagine walking on someone's coat if I wasn't dressed all nice.. |
If I recall, I was wearing a skirt (rather unusual for me) and not-water-proof flip flops. I'm also very clumsy and trying to straddle such a puddle was awkward.
| Continental Admiral wrote: | | I find that to be extremely odd. |
You'd find a lot of things about me extremely odd.
| Shanbob wrote: | When a girl accepts the request of a guy (after he's talked to her father or other... ) to get to know her better, she shouldn't have to, neither should she be expecting him to immediately rush to open all doors, be that a building or car door. He should not be expected to stand by her side holding her hand, retrieve her refreshments, or always push her chair in.
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Well, I've never been in a dating/courtship relationship, my three closest guyfriends always open doors for me, so is it bad to expect it of them? (That was a rhetorical question; I'd rather not have it answered, thank you.) My friends offer to refill drinks at lunch whenever they're getting up, or even if they aren't, but a girl asked for something.
| Gandalf wrote: | | Seriously, I do rather think many forms of 'chivalry' are outdated, or at least shouldn't be practiced in normal everyday life. This includes things like putting one's coat on the ground for a woman to walk on, kissing a lady's hand at introduction, making sure that a woman always has an escort (either male or female) in non-dangerous places, standing when a woman enters the room, and pulling chairs out for ladies at non-formal meals. |
I wish sometimes that kissing a lady's hand at introduction and standing when women enter the room still happened. I think it's outdated simply because it isn't practiced, not because it doesn't belong.
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rayeO'sunshine
New Citizen
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 38
Location: Lost in Thought
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think that guys can be courteous without having to throw thier coat over
a puddle. That seems rather silly actually. It's nice if thet open a door for
you, but demanding that they always open every door is going overboard.
I'll type morelater, g2g to bed.
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Continental Admiral
Ornery Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2003
Posts: 867
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Mandy Straussberg wrote: | | I wish sometimes that kissing a lady's hand at introduction and standing when women enter the room still happened. I think it's outdated simply because it isn't practiced, not because it doesn't belong. |
WHAT?! Kissing a... hand? I really wouldn't put up with that. And really, I wouldn't see it as belonging in a day-to-day basis of contact with the opposite gender. Boyfriend? Perhaps. But some stranger you've just met? Need I remind you of germs?  I really wouldn't expect, nor really want some stranger to be extremely kind. It would just be annoying and repulsive, really. Beyond that, now-a-days, it would give a girl the wrong message. |
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Mandy Straussberg
Three-year veteran
Joined: 07 Dec 2002
Posts: 616
Location: Out West
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| Continental Admiral wrote: | | WHAT?! Kissing a... hand? I really wouldn't put up with that. And really, I wouldn't see it as belonging in a day-to-day basis of contact with the opposite gender. Boyfriend? Perhaps. But some stranger you've just met? Need I remind you of germs? I really wouldn't expect, nor really want some stranger to be extremely kind. It would just be annoying and repulsive, really. Beyond that, now-a-days, it would give a girl the wrong message. |
Want to know another odd thing about me? The idea of a stranger kissing my hand is less repulsive the the thought of a boyfriend kissing my hand... don't ask me why.
And I always bristle when "giving someone the wrong message" is mentioned. I don't understand those kind of games... I make myself, my opinions, and my motives very well known, and nobody ever gets the wrong message from me unless they were looking for it in the first place (i.e. expecting me to reject them, so feeling rejected if I don't seek them out first thing to say hello). But now I'm just off-topic-ing to a great extent.
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Londoner
Somewhat Aging Member
Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Posts: 430
Location: London, England, UK
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| I like it. But only men do it. Teens just let you do everything yourself. |
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Screech
The Fonz
Joined: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 1894
Location: Right where I'm supposed to be.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| Londoner wrote: | | I like it. But only men do it. Teens just let you do everything yourself. |
*ahem*
I do it And I would be called "a teen"  |
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Catspaw
AIO Fan Fiction Writer
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
Posts: 804
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Hooray for Screech the gentleman!
Honestly, I find the thought of people kissing my hand revolting. I have this thing about clean hands, and I would go through a lot of hand sanitizer with that kind of custom! I guess a lot of ladies wore gloves back when that was common, though, so that wouldn't be as bad. It seems entirely unneccesary and gross, to my way of thinking. If somebody really likes that, make your husband do it after you're married.  |
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Monday
Wants an Interesting Status
Joined: 03 Oct 2003
Posts: 1627
Location: USA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Londoner wrote: | | I like it. But only men do it. Teens just let you do everything yourself. |
I know many teens that do it. 
| Catspaw wrote: | Hooray for Screech the gentleman!
Honestly, I find the thought of people kissing my hand revolting. I have this thing about clean hands, and I would go through a lot of hand sanitizer with that kind of custom! I guess a lot of ladies wore gloves back when that was common, though, so that wouldn't be as bad. It seems entirely unneccesary and gross, to my way of thinking. If somebody really likes that, make your husband do it after you're married. |
I agree, it's quite revolting. As of now, only dogs lick my hand and I like it that way. But, why would you want to waist your husbands kisses on your hand? Silly and revolting. |
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The Top Crusader
Job is to annoy Bennett Charles
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 2718
Location: Yarr.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Alas, my "teen" years are past, but at the time I did indeed open doors, etc.
On the subject of hand kissing, I think girls should kiss guys hands instead of the other way around.  |
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