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crosskritters Junior Member

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 155 Location: Confusion
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: Malachi Biblical? Realistic? |
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Do you think that angels accually come to earth in modern times? Do you think that they are recognized? Do you think that they are doubted? Do you think God ever "brainwashes" us (like what happens in part 3 )?
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AIO PSYCHE Master Contest and Talent Show Creator

Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 1056 Location: my own little world
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| What a good topic! Very original and thought provocking. I think so. Why not? God can do anything. Why not send an angel to earth? And I totally agree with the memory altering thing that Malichi did. Who knows; you could have been visited by an angel yesterday, and you'd never know it! So yes, I agree with that ep. I've never seen one, but I think that it's possible. |
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Christian Cowgirl Doesn't Post Enough to Get a Cool Status

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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think God is dealing with us today by way of angels. |
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crosskritters Junior Member

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 155 Location: Confusion
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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As long as he was going to play with our brain, why send and angel at all? Why not just play with Tom's brain and give him the idea to start the Timothy center? I know people who think that they interacted with angel who seemed on the serface to be ordinary people. Also there's that bible verse that say something like Entertain stragers for in doing so you may be entertaining angels. That's not exactly it but it's close. Also, in the bible, did people ever disbelieve angels? Did angels ever apear to more then one person at once?
--Kat
ps I know I am arguing both sides. srry if it's confusing. I don't know what my openion is. |
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Christian Cowgirl Doesn't Post Enough to Get a Cool Status

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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| crosskritters wrote: | | Did angels ever apear to more then one person at once? | You bet, remember the shepherds watching their flocks at night? How about when the 2 angels and Jesus appeared to Abraham, I'm sure his servants saw them as well as Sarah. |
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crosskritters Junior Member

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 155 Location: Confusion
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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My bad. but that brings up another thing. The Bible talks about angels like ordinary ppl, but (as far as I remember) doesn't give examples. Three things could be going on (that I can think of) to explain that. One. the writers of the Bible didn't know who was an angel and GOD didn't feel like telling them. Two angel used to alway annonce themselves, but now they keep thier identity secret. Three Malichi type things happen.
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Kanimoto Seasoned Veteran Member

Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 663 Location: Konohagakure (Hidden Leaf Village)
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Malachi Biblical? Realistic? |
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| crosskritters wrote: | | Do you think that angels accually come to earth in modern times? |
Yes!
| crosskritters wrote: | | Do you think that they are recognized? |
Maybe. I've never met one. (or, at least, one that I've recognized)
| crosskritters wrote: | | Do you think that they are doubted? |
Of course! If someone came up to me and told me that he was an angel, I probably doubt.
| crosskritters wrote: | | Do you think God ever "brainwashes" us (like what happens in part 3 )? |
Now that I'm not sure about. I don't think so...  |
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Melka Cursor Always on Submit Button Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 819 Location: In the Grip of Grace
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| All that I will say for now is that there are indeed angels, and why shouldent they come down here once in a while. They certanily would not stop just because Jesus came, would they? |
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Jonathan Dungeon Master

Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 2254 Location: Minnesota and/or North Dakota
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Christian Cowgirl wrote: | | I don't think God is dealing with us today by way of angels. |
*gets the feeling this will be moved to Impolite Company*
And why not? You can't deny that there is a very real spiritual battle going on that, for the vast majority of us, is invisible (thankfully). I believe whole-heartedly that there are demons in this world, making mischief and decieving people. So is God just going to feed us to them? No. Demons are Satan's warriors, and angels are God's, the counter force for the deception and evil. I really am interested in why you think this, but it is inconceivable for me that they aren't here.
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Gandalf Cursor Always on Submit Button Member

Joined: 30 Nov 2002 Posts: 876 Location: Desolation
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Well, even though I was the one that originally sent a letter to AIO asking them to bring an angel to Odyssey, I believe a number of things were wrong with the episode:
1) The way Tom and Whit 'tested' the angel. Whit tells Tom the Bible says to 'test' spirits and Tom said that if he dug up something under the cabin he would listen to Malachi and if he didn't he would tell Malachi to get lost. In reality, the Bible says we are to test spirits by asking them if Jesus came in the flesh. Demons can lie at times, so the 'testing' was faulty.
2) Do angels show up? I believe that a lot of times they do but are unrecognized (angels unaware). Do they come simply dishing out messages? This I'm not sure of, there is no Biblical references for someone, seemingly an angle, appearing and giving a message. If a message was delivered, it was quite obviously an angel, if a message wasn't delivered, then it's not usually clear that it was an angel.
3) God's purpose for angels is to A) worship and serve Him and B) to aid Christians and protect us when it's in His will. Erasing someone's memory just doesn't line up with this. What's the point? It doesn't bring glory to God anymore than 'direct inspiration' and the person can never look back and say 'I remember that time that God directly intervened in my life...".
As such, I tend to believe that Malachi's Message was a bit unrealistic. |
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