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Jonathan
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject:

It's articles like that that bug me. For a non-christian source I'll give them credit for how they talked about homosexuality, but Ernie and Bert are another story:

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For example, Bert would become enraged when Ernie ate cookies in bed. Why would cookie crumbs in Ernie’s bed concern Bert? The answer is simple: Bert planned on sharing that bed with Ernie.


Now it's been a while since I've seen the show, but if I remember correctly Bert was a neat freak, which was the reason he became upset.

This is just another example of something the homosexual agenda could take advantage of. "We can say it's normal b/c of this". For me the fact that they would exploit something like that to further their own agenda is sickening.

-Jonathan
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:22 am    Post subject:

I consder myself an expert on all things Henson: Muppets, Fraggle Rock, Seseme Street. I pride myself on knowing these things (Hey, I'm weird, ok? Smile ). Jonathan was right about Bert being a neat freak, and I'd say the idiot who wrote that article had not even seen a single episode of Seseme Street, and based his conclusion on what other people told him. :x

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject:

The other day i read an article in the newspaper about a show that was a spinoff of Arthur. It about Buster travelling around the country and in one episode he visits a ranch owned by lesbians. That outright promotes homosexuality, and it bothers me the message the kids watching will receive. I always liked Arthur when I was younger, but I'm beginning to change my mind...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:14 am    Post subject:

poWerBoy wrote:
The other day i read an article in the newspaper about a show that was a spinoff of Arthur. It about Buster travelling around the country and in one episode he visits a ranch owned by lesbians. That outright promotes homosexuality, and it bothers me the message the kids watching will receive. I always liked Arthur when I was younger, but I'm beginning to change my mind...


Ok, that is true. BUT that is 'Postcards from Buster' NOT 'Arthur'.
Arthur doesn't have things like that.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject:

At least, not yet. Rolling Eyes
Jonathan
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject:

Simbelmyne34 wrote:
poWerBoy wrote:
The other day i read an article in the newspaper about a show that was a spinoff of Arthur. It about Buster travelling around the country and in one episode he visits a ranch owned by lesbians. That outright promotes homosexuality, and it bothers me the message the kids watching will receive. I always liked Arthur when I was younger, but I'm beginning to change my mind...


Ok, that is true. BUT that is 'Postcards from Buster' NOT 'Arthur'.
Arthur doesn't have things like that.


Arthur has had some, um, odd Christmas programs. Other than that I don't see a problem, yet.

As for Buster, what makes it worse is that there were adopted kids there too. This took place in Vermont if I remember correcty, which sure explains alot.

And as long as I'm thinking about it, PBS is a whole lot more liberal than they let on.

-Jonathan
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject:

Kanimoto wrote:
At least, not yet. Rolling Eyes


yes. I'm talking about now
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject:

Simbelmyne34 wrote:
poWerBoy wrote:
The other day i read an article in the newspaper about a show that was a spinoff of Arthur. It about Buster travelling around the country and in one episode he visits a ranch owned by lesbians. That outright promotes homosexuality, and it bothers me the message the kids watching will receive. I always liked Arthur when I was younger, but I'm beginning to change my mind...


Ok, that is true. BUT that is 'Postcards from Buster' NOT 'Arthur'.
Arthur doesn't have things like that.


Yet, aren't they made by the same company?
Broadcast
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject:

I didn't feel right posting another link to a website that has an opinionated article discussing how children 'should' be exposing kids to a lifestyle with homosexual parents.

However...

The basic summary is that people are upset with the show that has kids learn about homosexuality. Some stations did not want to air it because they didn't want to be opinionated on the subject. But then theirs some people who simply don't want their kids to be exposed to that...

Unfortunatly, the author of the article says at the end, "Maybe I'm naive, and I'm certainly not qualifed to be the secretary of education or the president of PBS, but that sounds like something parents might actually want their kids exposed to."

We all know of course that he is fals. But here is the actual description of the episode;

Postcards From Buster is a spinoff of Arthur, an excellent kids show about an aardvark and his friends, in which Buster Baxter flies around the country with his dad, sending video postcards of his adventures to his mom (his parents are divorced). The videos are live-action, while Buster's a cartoon. In the episode in question, called Sugartime!, Buster goes to Vermont and learns about making maple syrup.

Nothing controversial so far.

Buster visits Karen, who used to work with his mom, Karen's partner, Gillian, and their kids. Their relationship is neither avoided nor exploited; it's presented in a completely non-judgmental way. While looking at family photos, Buster tells the family's daughter that she sure has a lot of moms. Yep, she says. Later they visit another family with lesbian parents, but most of the episode is spent on Buster playing with the kids and watching syrup being made (and eaten).

Indeed, despite what you might think by the uproar, the parents aren't the focus of the episode; they're hardly in it, and when they are they're just doing normal parent stuff - sending the kids on errands, making cookies, that kind of thing. There's no making out on the couch, no stolen kisses while Buster's not looking. Other than Buster's comment about having a lot of moms, the kids don't even mention their parents.

Except for this: Emma, Karen and Gillian's daughter, shows Buster around the house. He admires a photo of the two women.

"This is one of my favorite pictures," Emma says.

"How come?" Buster asks.

"Because it has my mom and Gillian," Emma says, "people I love a lot and they mean a lot to me."


Hmm. For obvious reasons, I'm not too impressed...
Jonathan
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject:

Broadcast wrote:
Indeed, despite what you might think by the uproar, the parents aren't the focus of the episode; they're hardly in it, and when they are they're just doing normal parent stuff - sending the kids on errands, making cookies, that kind of thing. There's no making out on the couch, no stolen kisses while Buster's not looking. Other than Buster's comment about having a lot of moms, the kids don't even mention their parents.


This paragraph tones the issue down. The problem is that it presents such relationships, with even children involved, as normal. It's not.

Broadcast wrote:
Hmm. For obvious reasons, I'm not too impressed...


Neither am I. Broadcast, could you pm me the link for this article?

-Jonathan
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