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Christian Cowgirl
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| ICDragon wrote: | | again this talkes about those who are alive and remain meeting Jesus in the air, I see no mention of two meetings... |
What do you mean two meetings? |
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Jonathan
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Joined: 21 Oct 2004
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Location: Minnesota and/or North Dakota
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| ICDragon wrote: | | I do beleive that in this period Christians will be especially protected by God, adn that we need not worry about it. |
Maybe. When it talks about the beheaded standing before God I believe that's in reference to the church at that time. I could be wrong though as I don't have my Bible in front of me to check.
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GusDeHaan
The TH. Inspector and etc.
Joined: 26 Apr 2004
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Location: Im so bright You need sunglasses.
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| ICDragon wrote: | ok umm this is an intersting debate. I believe that we will fly away, but only after the tribulation.
1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
In this verse it talks about the last trumpet. What is the last trumpet? the seventh trumpet ing reveletion the signals the end of the world. I personally think its against the very principles of Christianity to think that we will not endure trials and tribulations. When it talks in revelations about the Chrisitans who are enduring the tribulation, do you really believe its just a bunch of baby new Christians? I really doubt it. I do beleive that in this period Christians will be especially protected by God, adn that we need not worry about it.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
again this talkes about those who are alive and remain meeting Jesus in the air, I see no mention of two meetings... |
Just a bit more from a commentary
17. we which are alive . . . shall be caught up--after having been "changed in a moment" (1Co 15:51, 52). Again he says, "we," recommending thus the expression to Christians of all ages, each generation bequeathing to the succeeding one a continually increasing obligation to look for the coming of the Lord. [EDMUNDS].
together with them--all together: the raised dead, and changed living, forming one joint body.
in the clouds--Greek, "in clouds." The same honor is conferred on them as on their Lord. As He was taken in a cloud at His ascension (Ac 1:9), so at His return with clouds (Re 1:7), they shall be caught up in clouds. The clouds are His and their triumphal chariot (Ps 104:3; Da 7:13). ELLICOTT explains the Greek, "robed round by upbearing clouds" [Aids to Faith].
in the air--rather, "into the air"; caught up into the region just above the earth, where the meeting (compare Mt 25:1, 6) shall take place between them ascending, and their Lord descending towards the earth. Not that the air is to be the place of their lasting abode with Him.
and so shall we ever be with the Lord--no more parting, and no more going out (Re 3:12). His point being established, that the dead in Christ shall be on terms of equal advantage with those found alive at Christ's coming, he leaves undefined here the other events foretold elsewhere (as not being necessary to his discussion), Christ's reign on earth with His saints (1Co 6:2, 3), the final judgment and glorification of His saints in the new heaven and earth. |
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Melka
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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I really do not think that we will know exactly what will happen untill it actually happens, It will be great when it happens! Just think, It might happen before we die! It will be cool to see all of you, even those of you who do not want any of us to see you.  |
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