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Christian Cowgirl Doesn't Post Enough to Get a Cool Status

Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 594
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| AIO PSYCHE wrote: | | Jonathan wrote: | I'm wasn't implying that we should be striving to fulfill the law: it's not possible. That's why Jesus came and died for us.
What exactly do you mean by 'keep the sabbath'?
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I agree. There is no way to keep all the old laws. Now there are some (no offense jarem) Jews and non-Jews (jarem) who try to keep all the old laws even though Jesus died on the cross. If we tried to keep all the old laws, we'd be no better than the hipocrits that plotted to kill Jesus. It clearly states in the Bible that when Jesus died for our sins, the old law was done away with. So I agree that we no longer have to or should keep the old law. There is no possible way. | I still can't quite see the logic in this even though I agree.
I agree we are no longer under the law: Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
But if theres "no way" we can keep the law was it also impossible for the Israelites to keep? |
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Jeremy The Great Debater
Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 448 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Christian Cowgirl wrote: | | But if theres "no way" we can keep the law was it also impossible for the Israelites to keep? |
Of course! It was to "show us up" and "shut us up," as the Bible says. It was to show them how righteous God is and how sinful we are.
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Christian Cowgirl Doesn't Post Enough to Get a Cool Status

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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Jeremy wrote: | | Christian Cowgirl wrote: | | But if theres "no way" we can keep the law was it also impossible for the Israelites to keep? |
Of course! It was to "show us up" and "shut us up," as the Bible says. It was to show them how righteous God is and how sinful we are.
Jeremy | Ok, but they were suposed to try to keep it as a way of leading other nations to God. I guess in a way that could be applicable today, except we arn't under the law anymore... |
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Jared Cute and Cuddly

Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 4672 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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There are three aspects of the law as handed down in the Pentateuch.
MORAL LAW
Encapsulated in commandments five through ten and a variety of other passages, these laws stand for all time.
CIVIL LAW
The laws and customs of the nation of Israel, for that nation alone. Even those who claim that the law has not been fulfilled tend to ignore much of civil law; when was the last time you heard of a child being stoned, for example? Read through the laws of the nation of Israel and see how many of them are met by those touting the law. (Not many.)
CEREMONIAL LAW
The covenant symbolism. These laws revolved around the concept of future atonement, e.g. the sacrificial system and the various rituals and customs. On what would become the Temple Mount, Abraham told Isaac that God would provide himself a lamb. Abraham sacrificed a ram that day, but when the fullness of time had come, God provided Himself, the Lamb of God whose shed blood washes away our sin.
The law doesn't save. The law never saved. If the law could save, Christ's sacrifice would be in vain. If the law could save, what need would we have of grace? If the law could save, then why end the sacrificial system?
Because the law doesn't save. Never has, never will. None of us are perfect before God, which is what the law requires. The blood of rams and goats isn't powerful enough to cleanse us. Feasts and remembrances cannot justify us. Even under the Old Covenant, the just were saved by faith. The law showed them that they were unworthy, provided the ideal, provided a "type" of Christ, set them apart from the other nations and provided visible, tangible proof of their faith. But it was the faith itself that saved. |
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