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| Do you have a problem with homosexuals and gays? |
| Yes, it's wrong. |
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| No, if other people choose to live that life style, that's thier business. |
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alwaysHis324
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Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Location: missing snow
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 Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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don't worry, i didn't feel attacked. I actually appreciate your response.
Good post. |
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DanJackieChan
Just Moved In
Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Posts: 31
Location: South Dakota
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| Homosexuality is definatly wrong. I'm not saying it's worse then any other sin, but it is a sin and it should NOT be "socially acceptable." |
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Boa
Junior Member
Joined: 08 Dec 2002
Posts: 183
Location: A Long, Long Time Ago, in a Galaxy Far, Far Away.
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You make some great points Gandalf. I always have to remind myself that a homosexual isn't anymore sinful than the rest of the unsaved world. Hate the sin and love the sinner. It's sad that the rest of the world looks at "right wingers" as homophobes and homo haters. I try to explain to liberals that I don't hate gays I just don't agree with their lifestyle. I also don't agree with a man and woman shacking up together out of wedlock.
The reason why homosexuality is at the forefront of the christian critizism is because the gays want us to accept them as normal. They want to marry, and they want to adopt. They are a threat to the family as defined by God. Gays are the ones making it a hot issue. What they do behind closed doors is between them and God, just don't tell me that I have to be tolerant of it. Same goes for any other sin. |
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Mandy Straussberg
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Location: Out West
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I always found homosexuals more shocking than other sinners (other than say, people who "co-habbitate" or sleep around) because it's a lifestyle of sin, rather than just sinning. It's living and wallowing in sin rather than just commiting sins.
I don't think I described that very well, but that's what always made the difference to me.
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jessicado
It'll Take Me Years to Get to 2000 Posts
Joined: 06 Sep 2003
Posts: 722
Location: Oregon........I waaaaanna know-have you ever seeeeeeeeen the rain?
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:34 am Post subject: |
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A person who continuously sleeps around is also choosing a lifestyle of sin, and is living in it just as much as a homosexual.....but I kinda understand what you mean.
I actually know quite a few gay guys, in fact one of my best friends for a while was a gay man. I generally tend to get along better with guys than girls, but with most of my guy friends there is always at least a small bit of tension abot being the opposite sex. With him, there never was that issue so it was really nice. He was always doing sweet things and was very protective of me. Plus he was an awesome dresser and was always up on fashion and was giving me tips.
Most of the gay guys I know are very sweet and sensitive (Not sensitive in the flamboyant way. These guys appear completly straight with the exception that they are very well manicured). They are very caring and generous towards their family and friends. I wouldn't stop caring about my friend just because he is gay anymore than I would stop caring about a friend if he committed another sin. I can still love him and appreciate him for his great qualities and pray for him. |
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Broadcast
Child's Portion Diet Mini Cheeseburger
Joined: 23 Feb 2003
Posts: 99
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| jessicado wrote: |
I actually know quite a few gay guys, in fact one of my best friends for a while was a gay man. I generally tend to get along better with guys than girls, but with most of my guy friends there is always at least a small bit of tension abot being the opposite sex. With him, there never was that issue so it was really nice. He was always doing sweet things and was very protective of me. Plus he was an awesome dresser and was always up on fashion and was giving me tips.
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But are you encouraging it? 
It's amazing how much things are being turned around. CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) aired a new series a two weeks ago called, 'Marple', which is a newer Television series based on Agatha Christie's Mrs. Marple Mysteries. They were very well made, and we were looking forward towards yesterdays episode, because it was one of our favourites; 'A Murder is announced'.
One of the sub-plots in the original story was a tough Farm-Woman and a stupid absent minded girl (assumed to be sisters) living together. You never really thought of anything, really. However, yesterday's episode played it up a bit. They made the farm-woman more manly, wearing ties, and acting like a husband to the girl. We weren't sure at first, but after hands were being held, and kisses were exchanged, then we knew what was happening; they were depicted as gay. And this was encouraged all throughout the episode...
Once the stupid girl was strangled and killed about midway, they used that fact to say that gays truly do love one another...adn that the love can be just as strong.
One thing I worry about your post, Jessicado, is that your taking it just as any other sin. I mean, sure, sin is bad...but we've made it so that sin isn't as bad as it used to be.
But some sins can be as equal as another sin, but simply not hold as much weight.
We've already made a person sleeping around with other guys socially acceptable. It wasn't socially acceptable back in the thirties...but we've made it that way. For gays and lesbiens, were heading in that same direction...some of us are letting it past. And in a few years, it'll be socially acceptable to christians and non-christians.
Sure, be nice to them...pray for them. But to hang around them? I don't know if you should (seriously, I truly don't know). Because on the one hand, "Bad Company corrupts good Morals". You'll simply get used to gays and lesbiens, so that when the time comes that one wishes to teach a Sunday School class, you'll say; 'Okay'. On the other hand, and it's probably what your doing, just be a good friend and a good example as well.
Should they let influence your clothing habits, and social life? I don't think they should. I think at some point, you need to draw a line. If you don't, then how will they ever get that there doing something wrong? Have you told them it's wrong? Do they know where you stand? How can you be friends with someone, and yet not tell them that you feel uncomfertable about A BIG part of what they're doing?
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Christian Cowgirl
Doesn't Post Enough to Get a Cool Status
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 594
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Broadcast I totally agree with you.
Lust is a monster of such awful mien,
That to be hated needs but to be seen.
But seen too oft familiar with face,
We first endure then pity, then embrace.
~Alexander Pope |
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Mandy Straussberg
Three-year veteran
Joined: 07 Dec 2002
Posts: 616
Location: Out West
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| jessicado wrote: | | A person who continuously sleeps around is also choosing a lifestyle of sin, and is living in it just as much as a homosexual.....but I kinda understand what you mean. |
That's what I said: | Mandy Straussberg wrote: | | I always found homosexuals more shocking than other sinners (other than say, people who "co-habbitate" or sleep around)... |
Meaning that living as a homosexual is on equal footing (in my mind) as living with someone else or sleeping around.
Mandy |
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The Top Crusader
Job is to annoy Bennett Charles
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 2718
Location: Yarr.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'll simply state my view, without having read most of this topic. :)
Personally, I used to be a really big homophobe. But, over the last few years I've got to know a few homosexuals (at work, so it wasn't really by my choice), and, I was very shocked to discover... THEY ARE PEOPLE, TOO!  Obviously I find... the things gay people do... rather disgusting. But they are just sinners, no more, no less, than anyone else. I used to not want to associate with a lot of different kinds of people, but I've had the awakening that the only way to reach them is to associate with them. And not just doing it to be on a mission, but to really and truly be their friend.
It can be tough, but I've found it impactful. |
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GusDeHaan
The TH. Inspector and etc.
Joined: 26 Apr 2004
Posts: 763
Location: Im so bright You need sunglasses.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Mandy Straussberg wrote: |
Meaning that living as a homosexual is on equal footing (in my mind) as living with someone else or sleeping around.
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Does it really matter what its alikened to, Im pretty sure that Scripture condemns homosexuallity, even if the partners waited till marriage, to live together, etc. and never cheated. |
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