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Jared
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject:

Amadeo wrote:
Jeremy wrote:
Our protection from the devil is not based on whether or not we sin, but is based on the keeping power of Jesus. And as I said, we have been set free from the devil's control (Colossians 1:13, Ephesians 1-2) and have overcome him (1 John 2:13-14).

So if a Christian commits adultery, they have not given any ground to the devil or one of his demons?

Christians are not freed from the external machinations of the devil and his angels, nor are they loosed from their sin nature. I strongly doubt that Jeremy was contending that devils have no influence on the believer, but rather that they cannot indwell him, for his body is the temple of Another.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject:

Exactly.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject:

Exactly, Jared. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject:

Jared wrote:
Christians are not freed from the external machinations of the devil and his angels, nor are they loosed from their sin nature. I strongly doubt that Jeremy was contending that devils have no influence on the believer, but rather that they cannot indwell him, for his body is the temple of Another.

Fair enough. I will cease the questions for now.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:16 pm    Post subject:

Well my thought about the whole thing is that no christians cannot be demon possesed, but they can be demon oppressed. While it is true we cannot be consumed, taken over by a demon, or forced to do something against our wills, we can still be tempted. I also think that contact with demons or even possesion before being a Christian can affect you after you get saved, and you might have to be delivered from certain things. However you will as a Christian never be under the power of the evil one.

Now when you talk abou ta movie or book being demonic, I think that it should be more of a litteral thing. Just about any movie you will see will have some bad thing in it. I beleive it becomes demonic when the good charactors are being possed or using magic in an occultic or demonic context. Also when there is necromacing (raising of the dead) and worshiping ancestors, spirits, demons, etc. I also do not beleive in "good magic" but I think when used in an alternate universe concept, then it should be taken on a different level. Good examples would be Chronicles of Narnia and Lord of the Rings. However even then we must be careful how it is used (is the magic meant to help others or just the user), and who is using it. Basically for me its a main problem when magic is shown as something fun and exciting, that anyone can use, especially in a self serving way.

For example I think Harry Potter wrong, not neccecarily because its demonic (though some things in it are) bu because it has no values, and teaches that magic is fun and exciting to learn. Now a mature person would know that this is not the case, but the problem is that this book is being sold as a children's book, open up children to the occult.

I highly dissagree that all anime and most video games are occultic, but ther edefinately are a few that are. For instance there is obvious occultic material in the gam e Doom 3, or the anime Shaman King. Just be careful what you watch adn play, pray about it, consider if its something you would be willing to show to a mature pastor or parent. Those are some good guidelines with any and all materials.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject:

I feel the same way.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:14 am    Post subject:

This subject has been closed for a while but I wondered a few things.
Why does Amadeo always want things from the Greek?
It is not from the Greek that most of the bible comes from? Hebrew is the original lauguage. I was just wondering why Greek? I do know that some of the original manuscripts were in Greek but not all.

I also wanted to say don't let your eyes become acustom to what we might call little sins. Like some violence, forinstance. Before long you are accustom to it and it doesn't bother you. Next you know it you'll be acustom to more violence. So on so forth.

I would be very careful of witchcraft and all that stuff. Satan is hear on this earth to defeat us in whatever he can do. He is not like our Father in heaven who knows us. Satan doesn't know his own but he sure knows us!
Satan can't indwell us but he sure can pull all the stunts. He has all the power of the air. He is the purfect copycat waiting for you to pick up the wrong copy!

Ephesians 2:2
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,

1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, He also has rejected you from being king."

2 Kings 21:6
Also he made his son pass through the fire, practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft, and consulted spiritists and mediums. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger.

Matthew 24:5
"For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject:

Amadeo was referring to passages found in the New Testament, which were written in Koine Greek. The Old Testament is mostly written in Hebrew with some Aramaic (specifically in the books of Ezra and Daniel).

All the epistles, most of the text of the gospels and the New Testament's book of history (Acts) and book of apocalypse (Revelation) were written in Greek. In the gospels, the only real exception, it would seem, deals with some of the quotations and inscriptions, which were occasionally written in Aramaic rather than translated into Greek.
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