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Amadeo
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| Respectahobbit wrote: | | People who have become Christians cannot be demon possessed, but that doesn't mean you don't have to be careful. Demons are still dangerous and try to make you fall by finding out your weakness. |
I know people believe both ways but I do not have a completely formed opinion because I have never really studied Scripture on the subject of whether or not a Christian could be demon-possessed. If anyone would like to share a verse, I am still waiting. |
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Jeremy
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"We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him." (1 John 5:18 NASB.)
I could get a few other verses also, if needed.
The Holy Spirit lives inside of us, and He will not share company with a demon! The Holy Spirit has also sealed us for the day of redemption. There is just no way a Christian could be demon possessed--it is just not Biblical at all.
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Disco Dan
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Ah, there, now I remember! That's exactly what I mean, Jeremy! Quite right. |
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Amadeo
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"We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him." (1 John 5:18 NASB.)
Hmm . . . |
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Jeremy
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Your point?  |
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Amadeo
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps you need to take more verses in context? ;)
How about some more verses for this subject? I really am interested to know. |
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Jeremy
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| Amadeo wrote: | | Perhaps you need to take more verses in context? |
Huh? I still don't get what you're trying to say. It says that the evil one cannot touch those who have been born again. The fact that those who are born again (born of God) do not practice sin (that's what the Greek means) is not absolutely necessary to getting the gist of the second half of the verse; at least not as far as I can tell. I don't know what you mean about the context; do you think the context changes the interpretation I gave the verse?
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Disco Dan
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| The context is not literal. It's meaning is not that born-again believers do not sin period, but that we have indeed lost our sin nature, participating in unrestrained sin. |
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Amadeo
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| Jeremy wrote: | | Amadeo wrote: | | Perhaps you need to take more verses in context? |
Huh? I still don't get what you're trying to say. It says that the evil one cannot touch those who have been born again. The fact that those who are born again (born of God) do not practice sin (that's what the Greek means) is not absolutely necessary to getting the gist of the second half of the verse; at least not as far as I can tell. I don't know what you mean about the context; do you think the context changes the interpretation I gave the verse? |
It is a typical response from you. Ah well, I need more proof than that if I am to form an opinion on this subject.
| Eugene Blackgaard wrote: | | The context is not literal. It's meaning is not that born-again believers do not sin period, but that we have indeed lost our sin nature, participating in unrestrained sin. |
Then who makes (tempts) us sin if not the evil one? |
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Disco Dan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| I never said Satan does not tempt us! But with the seal of God on us, he can not touch us. We are our bride's, and his alone. Jesus will not co-share our being. |
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