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rosie · Inquisitive Member Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 1197

I, too, am uncomfortable with the idea of a women president. I agree with pretty much all of the reasons said above, but I would like to give some others.

I have seen over and over just how insensitive guys are. And yes, I'm staying on the topic here. When you are bawling your eyes out over something, they are coming up with a solution. They can't understand why you're crying, which can be extremely annoying. But it's their job to ignore (in some cases) the emotional implications of a situation, and just figure it out. They are perfectly cut out for this job, since I haven't yet met a guy that could understand the emotional side of things.

*ahem* I saw a survay once, and I think it said that 90% of successful bussiness men had suportive wives. Considering the number of supportive wives in this country, that's pretty good. You don't have to be a politician to make a difference, just marry one. Make him successful. You where made to help them, and frankly, they need it. Desperately. They aren't better than you, you just have different jobs. Neither is more important, really. Life becomes slightly more difficult when women don't have men to lead them, and men don't have women to help them. And no, help isn't a dirty word. Set up that way, in fact, they are more dependent on you than you are on them. Think about it. They can't really live without you, but they get most of the responsibility. Who doesn't want that kind of situation? The girls are at the advantage here! If something happens, it's their fault (most of the time), even if you share in any power they have. Of course, they most likely wouldn't have any power without you. And who cares if they get the credit? They wouldn't really be anything without you, and you know it.

So, my fellow girls, live life the way it's supposed to be lived. If God wants you to run for president, go right ahead. But he won't, cause he loves you and isn't going to ask you to do something so completely contradictory to your nature.

hawkeye · Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 9:18 pm Post subject:

LOL!

I dislike admitting it, but Rose is 110% correct! :wink:

Also, Coralfish presented a good aspect as well... Further evidence of the way God made men and women different. I took the logical, Coralfish and rose took the practical.... Laughing

smurfs · Guest

Let me get this strate, men are always in charge and will always be. The women that live in the house are suppost to respect the men of the house!!!!?????? (Im not really good at that) and women are supposted to be bossed around by men all the time!!!??? And I personally think its sad that some men think its a mistake to have women educated!!!! Aswell that women need pertection from men??? Confused

Jared · Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 10:01 pm Post subject:

Madison,

Read the above arguments over again. What you charge many of us with saying is not at all what we said. If you notice, not all of the people saying it here are male. And I don't think that coralfish and rose were begging to be deprived of education and voting rights...

Let me try to take your points one at a time.

rosie · Inquisitive Member Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 1197

Madison, it seems that you aren't quite clear about what we mean. I suggest you read in the Bible where it talks about this, it will show you.

God set up men to be the head of the household. So, men being the head of the household is a good thing. Of course, it all depends on how responsibly men fulfill their role, it could be bad if they abuse their authority. Does God treat you nicely, even though he leads you? Of course!! That's what men are supposed to do to, even though they generally fail miserably (ok, ok, not all the time). They are supposed to lead us how God leads us. Of course that's impossible to do perfectly, and problems will arise. However, more problems will come if you deviate from His plan. Let God show you what he says in the Bible about this, since we seem to be having a hard time trying to not misunderstand each other. Wink

smurfs · Guest

Well, what if the man of the house is never around and the runner-up is not quite exactly the leader type and when the man of the house is there, he dose not quite exactly make smart choices?

Jared · Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 6:53 am Post subject:

Obviously, what you are speaking of is not the ideal situation. In that case, the man has turned his back on his responsibilities. There's still on obligation for respect, although it might be difficult. But I am not insinuating that the wife do nothing. If the husband is rarely around, obviously the wife has to take care of things. And that's a very unfortunate situation, one which should never have to occur.

When you say runner-up, to whom are you referring? I suppose the wife, but it seems like you can't be saying that, as it would rathed defeat the rest of your argument. Explain, please.

And what if the man makes poor choices? Unfortuantely, some you have to live with. If something puts you in danger or would require you to sin if you were to follow his choices, then you can't obey. But, as much as you may dislike doing it, a bad choice is still his choice. If it doesn't endanger you or cause you to sin, then I guess you have to go along with it.

I know there are surprises in marriage, but in a way, can't the wife bring this upon herself? When a person decides to marry, hopefully they have made the decision with prayer and with some good common sense. Hopefully they haven't rushed into it.

There are of course unforseen circumstances and problems that can trigger difficulties, but many bad marriages now could have been avoided if those in it had paid a little more attention and done a little more praying before the wedding day.

smurfs · Guest

What I ment by was a son or an uncle. And what if both the father and son cant really be trusted?

Elf of Rivendell · Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 8:53 am Post subject:

I agree with Jared, Hawkeye, Coralfish, and Rose. Personally, I dislike the thought of women as presidents.

I also agree with everything they said, and since I don't want to be redundant, I'll save my breath. Wink

alwaysHis324 · Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 3:40 pm Post subject:

Thank you all very much for your insight on this topic. I really never considered what the Bible had to say about women in positions of authority and how it applies to the presidency. All of your points are good, and very helpful.

I was thinking however, what if a president, such as Mr. Bush, ran along side his wife. Im saying that if Mrs. Bush was the VP to President Bush. I just thought that might be interesting. Because of how God intended men and women to complete and compliment each other... just a thought