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Screech
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-Mellow boy
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just cause he supperts Kerry doesn't mean he's not a Christian  |
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Monday
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| trina wrote: | | Seeing as he was very very very much behind embryonic stem cell research, I don't know how he could have been (a Christian). He was really supporting Kerry in this election and kept saying that science would help him walk through embryo stem cells - he wouldn't just use adult stem cells which have actually been shown to have some benefits and don't cost a life. Embryoinic Stem Cells actually haven't been shown to have any benefit whatsoever and require the loss of an innocent life. I'm almost certain he wasn't a Christian, but we should pray for his family, and those who were close to him, and those who are in the same situation as he was. |
I agree and know what you're saying. In one of his books he said as much that he knew there was a God and basicley that he was trying to find it.
| -Mellow boy wrote: | | just cause he supperts Kerry doesn't mean he's not a Christian |
She never said that, did she? |
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Shadowpaw
He Lies in Shadows
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| -Mellow boy wrote: | | just cause he supperts Kerry doesn't mean he's not a Christian |
Since Kerry professes to be a Catholic himself, I find it hard to believe that supporting him dismisses Christopher Reeve's own Christianity. (And doesn't make any sense actually).
Also, last time I checked, support for stem cell research isn't a pre-req for being a Christian either. Everyone has their own belief systems. What is undeniable is Christopher Reeve's accomplishments after his accident were amazing. He was certainly a very strong and wonderful man and will be missed.
I pray that he's in Heaven now.
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Jared
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| Shadowpaw wrote: | | Since Kerry professes to be a Catholic himself, I find it hard to believe that supporting him dismisses Christopher Reeve's own Christianity. (And doesn't make any sense actually). |
Setting aside my own major disagreements with Catholicism, I must say I don't consider Kerry much of a Catholic anyway. He's a nominal one, I suppose. Going to mass looks good. It's what his family has always done. But morally and doctrinally, John Kerry is no Catholic.
As for supporting Kerry not having any bearing on one's salvation or lack thereof, that's certainly true. I can only say that I can scarcely fathom how a Christian could in good conscience vote for a social liberal. Obviously, Christians often do, and it doesn't change the fact that they are Christians. But it doesn't speak well of those Christians, since social liberalism is vehemently opposed to even the most basic moral tenets of the Christian faith.
| Shadowpaw wrote: | | Also, last time I checked, support for stem cell research isn't a pre-req for being a Christian either. Everyone has their own belief systems. |
Also true. Certainly, many Christians support embryonic stem cell research, and again, that makes them no less saved. It does, however, make them much less moral and much less Christ-like, as support for such research is the explicit endorsement of murder.
| Shadowpaw wrote: | | I pray that he's in Heaven now. |
I too hope he was saved. I don't know anything about him beyond his support for Kerry and his advocacy of federal funds allocated to embryonic stem cell research, but I certainly hope that he was a Christian. I can't pray such, though, except in the colloquial use of the word, because salvation is a person decision and thus there is nothing to be gained in praying for the dead. |
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alwaysHis324
Is Apparently Easily Amused
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| Shadowpaw wrote: | | I pray that he's in Heaven now. |
Yes, I hope the same. |
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Emily Witt
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | just cause he supperts Kerry doesn't mean he's not a Christian |
I actually never said that.
I personally believe that it is VERY difficult, if not impossible to support killing innocent, unborn babies and reflect a Christ-like attitude.
I also agree with Jared on this point:
| Quote: | Setting aside my own major disagreements with Catholicism, I must say I don't consider Kerry much of a Catholic anyway. He's a nominal one, I suppose. Going to mass looks good. It's what his family has always done. But morally and doctrinally, John Kerry is no Catholic.
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I also pray that Mr. Reeve came to know the Lord before he died. It's always sad when someone in this world dies, particularly when we're not sure if their soul was saved or lost.
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-Mellow boy
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hmm jared has a good point about praying for somone to be in heavn when the persons only dead  |
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Felicity Carden
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*shakes head* Where ever Reeves is now, he no longer has to be in a wheelchair.
BTW, I used to work for a non-emergency medical transportation company and we used to transport him whenever he was in town. It was an honor to serve him. |
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